In this post I will address the issues brought up by "jewish-man." I am very happy that he posted all his assinine statements so we can address them and clarify our point.
He claims that there are no "mainstream" ballabatim learning until 2 in the morning. I am a ballabos and I do. And I am mainstream.....
Do you want me to tell you about all the Baalei Batim who come home expecting a table fit for a king and for his wife to be dressed like the queen? Then after fressing his meal and downing his beer, he sits down in front of the "tube" for 2 hours, which has been now replaced by the "holy" internet and blogs away bashing everyone frummer than him??????
This very clearly describes the lakewood mentality, not the working guys. I have a very close relative who is "learning" in lakewood and refuses to eat anything but steak for supper. He will never eat leftovers so they throw out anything that is. He is living off his parents and inlaws and doesnt learn a blessed word. So much for your describtion of a ballabos..... and the rest of the sentence I wont address..... It does not merit a response.
Lets see. There are well over three thousand Talmidim in Lakewood. Come, lets go see how many are in the coffee room. 50? 100? 2% drinking coffee and 98% sitting, learning and shteiging?
This is a lie and you know it. Most of the guys in lakewood spend more time trying to rip off parents/inlaws/government etc then learning. They all have the same answer. "Im in real estate"
Man are you jealous. If you would have only learnt a word or two as a bochur and gotten a Schver of means, you wouldn't of had to sweat your tush off to buy that '91 buick. Sorry Mr Moser. Its too late now.
If this does not personify the entire lakewood mentality, I dont know what does. How the hell can you not be embarressed to say such a thing???!!!! You learned so that you can get a rich shver to support you????!!!! Is this what we have come to? BTW I do have a rich shver but he does not believe in making me into an invalid by supporting me. He helps me when I need it but realizes the value of being a responsible adult.
I am too angry to continue. I will cool down and come back soon.......
Friday, March 23, 2007
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At first I thought you were going to discuss the trails and difficulties as a baalabos, balancing all the things you need to do, learning, working, helping at home etc.
Sad to say... but it looks like you just joined all the other disgusting blogs writers who do nothing but bash large swatches of yidden. Sad!
Your complaints about being looked down as a working ben torah suddenly seem hollow and fake.
Stop complaining and writing such awful childish posts.. and grow up.
When I see these idiotic rantings from other balle batim (yes ,I work myself)I sure understand the alleged atitude towards us from kollel yungerleit (though I sure haven't experianced it)
Oh well sinas am haratzim l'talmidey chachomom goes a long way back...
Satmar Rebbe ZTL 50 years ago disagreed with the Lakewood model, which has destroyed countless people who for whatever reason can't support indefinitely, etc. and made learning-for-money an institution.
That is why they had a "Schick" or two, and don't even feel bad about it. Its a shame.
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